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		<title>By: Sandra Foyt</title>
		<link>http://www.onlivingbylearning.com/2009/06/01/watch-out-for-the-comments-when-you-take-aim-at-homeschoolers/comment-page-1/#comment-1861</link>
		<dc:creator>Sandra Foyt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Jun 2009 18:54:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Phil,

I don&#039;t know the answer to your question.  I haven&#039;t read any studies on this, psychological or otherwise.  So many factors go into promoting citizenship that I suspect it would be very difficult to test this hypothesis.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Phil,</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know the answer to your question.  I haven&#8217;t read any studies on this, psychological or otherwise.  So many factors go into promoting citizenship that I suspect it would be very difficult to test this hypothesis.</p>
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		<title>By: The Phil Guild Guide</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Phil Guild Guide</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Jun 2009 18:06:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve read somewhere that kids who got into the conventional school system didn&#039;t do good as citizens later in life compared to kids who were home schooled during the same period. Is there a truth to this on a psychological level?

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve read somewhere that kids who got into the conventional school system didn&#8217;t do good as citizens later in life compared to kids who were home schooled during the same period. Is there a truth to this on a psychological level?</p>
<p><abbr><em>The Phil Guild Guide´s last blog post..<a href="http://thephilguild.weebly.com/1/post/2009/06/weather-wet-manila-for-a-week.html" rel="nofollow">WEATHER: Wet Manila For A Week</a></em></abbr></p>
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		<title>By: Maltesia the Fluoxetine Fairy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Maltesia the Fluoxetine Fairy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Jun 2009 16:16:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As homeschool teacher for more than eight years now, majority of those I have handled are exceptionally bright. The teaching method I have have been using since then is aimed more in honing their inherent ability in relation to each subject I teach rather than follow a set curriculum similar to typical schooling. I think that the advantage of homeschooling is that the education focuses more on developing the child&#039;s ability rather than force him to conform to a set of rules or standards that more often than not shrouds his uniqueness. The only downside is the lack of social interaction they get with other children, but I think that their parents are well aware of this, that is why they see to it that they balance homeschooling with other social activities that allow their kids to socially interact with others.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As homeschool teacher for more than eight years now, majority of those I have handled are exceptionally bright. The teaching method I have have been using since then is aimed more in honing their inherent ability in relation to each subject I teach rather than follow a set curriculum similar to typical schooling. I think that the advantage of homeschooling is that the education focuses more on developing the child&#8217;s ability rather than force him to conform to a set of rules or standards that more often than not shrouds his uniqueness. The only downside is the lack of social interaction they get with other children, but I think that their parents are well aware of this, that is why they see to it that they balance homeschooling with other social activities that allow their kids to socially interact with others.</p>
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		<title>By: Sandra Foyt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sandra Foyt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Jun 2009 03:03:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You&#039;ve hit on the essential point.  In our homeschool environment, like many, I&#039;m sure, there&#039;s lots of learning, but very little teaching.  Or, perhaps, I could argue that there is nonstop teaching, but not in a traditional authoritarian sense.  Instead, there is nearly ceaseless discussion of all kinds of things, from questioning the color of the robin&#039;s egg to considering the relative merits of passageways while building a roblox hotel.  Those are just two conversations, among many more, today.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;ve hit on the essential point.  In our homeschool environment, like many, I&#8217;m sure, there&#8217;s lots of learning, but very little teaching.  Or, perhaps, I could argue that there is nonstop teaching, but not in a traditional authoritarian sense.  Instead, there is nearly ceaseless discussion of all kinds of things, from questioning the color of the robin&#8217;s egg to considering the relative merits of passageways while building a roblox hotel.  Those are just two conversations, among many more, today.</p>
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		<title>By: uucamper</title>
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		<dc:creator>uucamper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Jun 2009 16:13:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks, Sandra, for your post.  I think it is so important for people, and homeschool parents in particular, to understand that homeschooling is not anything like school.  The process and the situation is entirely different----probably the schools, like your daughter&#039;s, would be more effective if they were more like a good homeschool learning environment.

Here is my comment to Alistair&#039;s post:

I’m glad you preface your post saying you don’t know much about homeschooling. This is shown very clearly by the questions you pose and the things incite your curiousity.

First off—no, most homeschooling parents are not too curious about what it’s like to be a public school teacher. Most people who are homeschooling their children attended school, and likely public school as children. Also, there is a significant portion of homeschooling parents who are public school teachers.

I am very carefully saying homeschooling parents rather than homeschool teachers. This is a very significant distinction. Most parents learn very quickly that “teaching” is not their role in a homeschooling family.

Once you and any parent understands that children are naturally curious and, like sponges, want to learn, want more information and will seek it out, then you are on your way to a successful homeschool experience.

Most of us who have homeschooled our children start out teaching but learn very soon that we are interfering with our children’s education by doing so. Children are not like little birds that require spoon feeding. Homeschool parents are at their best when we help our children find resources and assist them in the “how” of learning rather than the “what”.

If you can understand this one point, many of the other questions you ask are answered or become irrelevant.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, Sandra, for your post.  I think it is so important for people, and homeschool parents in particular, to understand that homeschooling is not anything like school.  The process and the situation is entirely different&#8212;-probably the schools, like your daughter&#8217;s, would be more effective if they were more like a good homeschool learning environment.</p>
<p>Here is my comment to Alistair&#8217;s post:</p>
<p>I’m glad you preface your post saying you don’t know much about homeschooling. This is shown very clearly by the questions you pose and the things incite your curiousity.</p>
<p>First off—no, most homeschooling parents are not too curious about what it’s like to be a public school teacher. Most people who are homeschooling their children attended school, and likely public school as children. Also, there is a significant portion of homeschooling parents who are public school teachers.</p>
<p>I am very carefully saying homeschooling parents rather than homeschool teachers. This is a very significant distinction. Most parents learn very quickly that “teaching” is not their role in a homeschooling family.</p>
<p>Once you and any parent understands that children are naturally curious and, like sponges, want to learn, want more information and will seek it out, then you are on your way to a successful homeschool experience.</p>
<p>Most of us who have homeschooled our children start out teaching but learn very soon that we are interfering with our children’s education by doing so. Children are not like little birds that require spoon feeding. Homeschool parents are at their best when we help our children find resources and assist them in the “how” of learning rather than the “what”.</p>
<p>If you can understand this one point, many of the other questions you ask are answered or become irrelevant.</p>
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		<title>By: Sandra Foyt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sandra Foyt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Jun 2009 15:39:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And another thing...

(Alistair Bomphray) On that note, if I could add another question to my previous batch, it would be, How do you determine if homeschooling is the best choice for your child? What are the determining factors?

(Me) Given that I’m available to homeschool both of my children, and both are bright, self-motivated learners, why am I only homeschooling one child?

Timing. Special Needs.

It never occurred to me to homeschool my older child. Instead, I spent many years working within the public school system, advocating for Gifted Ed programs. That was also when I started researching education, and comparing our schools to that of friends around the country.

By the time my son was in 1st Grade, I had a very good idea about what was available in our school district vs. that of other schools in Betheda, MD, southern, CA, and Westchester, NY. In our school, there is no Gifted Ed below 3rd Grade, and differentiation is not a panacea.

The timing was right to pull my son out of public school at the end of 1st Grade, before the frustrations set in. As bright as he is, and as articulate as he can be, his writing skills are relatively poor. He just can’t handwrite what he can say. This is where one-on-one assistance has been invaluable. He works on his writing skills, but we also use technology (including dictation) to let him express his thoughts.

With my daughter, we missed the window of opportunity to pull her out for homeschooling. She is enmeshed in the school culture. However, she is happy and thriving in her current school, a small alternative school that encourages creativity and project-based learning.

Both kids are in the right place for each right now. And, I’d say the determining factors are whether, or not, they are in a situation where they are engaged learners.

If there is one thing I’ve learned, it is that everything can change quickly. We can only make the right choice in the moment, and we’ll deal with the future when we get there.

Oh, and by the way, I do continue to learn from teachers in various settings. In addition to the teachers I follow online, I still visit school websites, and I question friends who are teachers. I learn from my daughter’s teachers. And, I still compare what my children’s friends are doing when we visit them in MD, FL, and CA.

Hey, what can I say, we’re a curious bunch!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And another thing&#8230;</p>
<p>(Alistair Bomphray) On that note, if I could add another question to my previous batch, it would be, How do you determine if homeschooling is the best choice for your child? What are the determining factors?</p>
<p>(Me) Given that I’m available to homeschool both of my children, and both are bright, self-motivated learners, why am I only homeschooling one child?</p>
<p>Timing. Special Needs.</p>
<p>It never occurred to me to homeschool my older child. Instead, I spent many years working within the public school system, advocating for Gifted Ed programs. That was also when I started researching education, and comparing our schools to that of friends around the country.</p>
<p>By the time my son was in 1st Grade, I had a very good idea about what was available in our school district vs. that of other schools in Betheda, MD, southern, CA, and Westchester, NY. In our school, there is no Gifted Ed below 3rd Grade, and differentiation is not a panacea.</p>
<p>The timing was right to pull my son out of public school at the end of 1st Grade, before the frustrations set in. As bright as he is, and as articulate as he can be, his writing skills are relatively poor. He just can’t handwrite what he can say. This is where one-on-one assistance has been invaluable. He works on his writing skills, but we also use technology (including dictation) to let him express his thoughts.</p>
<p>With my daughter, we missed the window of opportunity to pull her out for homeschooling. She is enmeshed in the school culture. However, she is happy and thriving in her current school, a small alternative school that encourages creativity and project-based learning.</p>
<p>Both kids are in the right place for each right now. And, I’d say the determining factors are whether, or not, they are in a situation where they are engaged learners.</p>
<p>If there is one thing I’ve learned, it is that everything can change quickly. We can only make the right choice in the moment, and we’ll deal with the future when we get there.</p>
<p>Oh, and by the way, I do continue to learn from teachers in various settings. In addition to the teachers I follow online, I still visit school websites, and I question friends who are teachers. I learn from my daughter’s teachers. And, I still compare what my children’s friends are doing when we visit them in MD, FL, and CA.</p>
<p>Hey, what can I say, we’re a curious bunch!</p>
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